PUBLICITY WHORE: Having cut your teeth in
Black Flag, you achieved success completely on your own
terms. When you then sign with someone like DreamWorks,
is it a doomed relationship from the start - because you
suddenly have a bunch of tone-deaf twits with runny noses
telling you how to be Henry Rollins?
HENRY ROLLINS: I had a good time with the DeamWorks
set up. They never told me what to do and I did what
I wanted and they met all their promises. I did my two record
deal with them and moved on. So, it wasn't all that
bad.
PW: What do you think of Napster? And doesn't
it at least make you smile a little bit that it threatens
the livelihood of many of those same tone-deaf twits with
runny noses?
HR: I don't use Napster and don't think it
really stops anyone from selling records, it probably helps
record sales. It's not really the tone deaf folks you keep
mentioning who suffer really, it's more the
people on my end of the scale.
PW: Do you think the frighteningly litigious
Courtney Love is a brave freedom fighter protecting artists
from the big bad machine, or simply an opportunistic slut
milking the Cobain cow to support her shallow Hollywood
lifestyle?
HR: Do I get a third choice? I can't say I
know the woman. Met her a couple of times briefly. I don't
know exactly what she's shaking the tree about with all
that stuff she's doing. It's really not a world I exist
in. I own all my records and am under contract to no one
and I don't sign anything that my lawyer doesn't draft so
I am not in anyone's evil clutches. But, I don't know what
CL is up to. Never really was all that much interested in
her.
PW: You've survived every musical trend from
New Wave to Glam Rock to Grunge to Rap/Metal and still managed
to put out 'Nice' - easily one of the best albums of the
year. You obviously have an internal need to fight
the good fight. Does it piss you off when you see
people like Billy Corgan throw in the towel on the Smashing
Pumpkins, citing the perils of having to 'compete with the
Britney's of the world' as his primary reason?
HR: I can't believe that would be Billy's
primary reason for shutting down the Pumpkins. I know that
the man can be irritable at times, so he may have said that.
I think we won't be hearing the last of Billy for quite
some time. He's got music in him for sure. And like
I said before, I exist in my own little world of music and
art. None of these people or trends have anything to do
with what I do. You must take into account how small of
a fish I am in that particular sea. If I stopped making
records now, no one would notice.
PW: 2001 was the year that Michael Jordan
returned to basketball and no one gave a shit. Suddenly
there were more important things on people's minds than
stock options and whether the new Mercedes will come in
cobalt blue. Do you think we have changed forever
as a people, or will we quickly return to being the most
popular girl in school?
HR: Never underestimate the need for a population
to return to its normal day-to-day. After Sept. 11, people
are very shook. Myself included. I think that little by
little as time goes on, we'll get back to that vain and
in denial populace that enrages other nations all over
the world. We just have to kill some people in the mountains
of Afghanistan first.
PW: In 1995 you hosted a 'Year In Review'
special on the radio. When you got to the 'People
Who Died This Year' portion, you went on and on about how
much you respected Jerry Garcia. One of the rocket
scientists I was with at the time started freaking out -
'How could Henry Rollins, Mr. Black Flag, give props to
that hippy
piece of shit?' This is a big problem - music is meant
to bring people together, but more often than not it closes
people off in safe little clicks. The punks hate the
Deadheads cause they take acid and smell bad, and the Deadheads
hate the punks because they DON'T take acid and smell bad.
For our 2 or 3 open-minded readers out there, who are a
few unknown bands out there that we should ALL know about?
HR: John Coltrane's classic Quartet. 1964-65
recordings are as good as anything ever recorded I reckon.
Fats Waller, Duke Ellington. There's a ton more but those
are a few that to me are overlooked by people who might
really like the music if given a chance to check it out.
PW: You're a very prolific writer - of both
music and books. Do you have a set routine where you
sit down and write x hours a day, or do you pick up the
pen when inspiration strikes?
HR: I don't consider myself a real writer.
This puts me under a lot less pressure to work. It's
not like I have a deadline, or I'm under contract and have
to produce. If I never did another book, would anyone
notice besides the staff at the book company? So I
just do what I do, and when it's done I sometimes publish
it.
PW: Does being on the road help or hinder
your creative output?
HR: Ive spent most of the last 21 years
on the road, so that's normal for me. I usually do
all my work out there, and then edit off the road.
PW: If you were to recommend the best Henry
Rollins book for the un-initiated to start with, which would
it be?
HR: I think two books of mine that are pretty
cool are the last two: Smile, You're Traveling
and Solipsist.
PW: I want to commend you on choosing the
Metro as the venue for your live album / concert video shows
March 1st and 2nd. Having grown up in Chicago, that
stage is pretty much sacred ground for me. Was it
on a list of potential venues to do it at, or was the Metro
the spot you wanted - period?
HR: I wanted the Metro. I have been playing
there on and off since the early 80's and I like the place
and the town a lot.
PW: I started Publicity Whore more or less
because I have no interest in having a real job. Instead
of being greeted with respect and admiration for my bold
move, people around me try to piss on my parade with all
the 'real world' shit, intended to make me start
second guessing myself: 'What's your business plan?
'How do you plan to make money?' 'Where do you see
this heading?' 'Are you gonna be a loser the rest
of your life?' Truth be told, I didn't even know what
a business plan WAS until everybody started asking to
see mine. Do you have any advice for a kid from Chicago
who's naive enough to think he can have fun interviewing
you, and somehow pay the bills too?
HR: Well, I don't know if you're going to
pay the bills with this magazine, as good as I am sure it's
going to be. You might want to consider a second line of
defense in the fight against missed meals,
Late rent payments and the like. It's no easy trick to make
money with this kind of thing.
PW: Ok - quick fill in the blanks: What
book are you currently reading?
HR: Imperium by Ryszard Kapuscinski.
PW: What's the last album you listened to?
HR: Slide guitar gospel songs 40's-60's various
artists.
PW: Name a city everyone should visit?
HR: Sydney Australia
PW: Who's a bigger asswipe, Fred Durst (Limp
Bizkit) or Scott Stapp (Creed)?
HR: I don't know either guy and have never
heard a complete song of either band. Maybe I am the biggest
asswipe.
PW: And finally, have you ever slept with
Winona Ryder? And if so - were you aware of her shoplifting
tendencies at the time?
HR: Nope.
PW: Sorry - I had to ask
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